SCO v. IBM

Message ID: 393428 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO OWNS UNIX SCO owns Unix, and more importantly, regardless of ownership, IBM is not supposed to reveal derivative works to outside world. AIX and Dynix are derivative works. IBM hasn't turned in all the AIX and Dynix code to SCO -- no AIX and only 2 CD's of Dynix? that's a shame!! --, and is trying to evade SCO's inquiries about certain emails as well. IBM is hiding something. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 393391 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loon Delusion 2003 is the year of the Linux desktop. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7709909925.html http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-05/linuxdesktop_01.html Well, may be not. But, 2004 definitely is. http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=568003838&fp=16&fpid=0 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1398069,00.asp Noooooooooooooo. 2004 is definitely *not* the year of Linux desktop. http://www.thechannelinsider.com/article/2004+Wont+Be+the+Year+of+the+Linux+Desktop/115554_1.aspx Well, then may be 2005 is. http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=83827 That didn't exactly work out as predicted, but 2006 is *definitely* the year. Watch us crush Microsoft!! http://news.com.com/Novell+Linux+desktop+set+to+take+off/2100-7344_3-6059461.html http://www.gcn.com/print/25_7/40263-1.html On second thought, 2006 is not it! http://www.linuxlaboratory.org/index.php?title=2006_is_NOT_the_year_for_Linux_on_the_Desktop

Message ID: 392816 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Unexpected good fortune My silent supporters seem to have resurrected a bunch of my messages. I thank them.  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392789 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Is Linux the worst operating system? Is Linux the worst operating system ever to be produced by mankind? Quite possibly. Is it the most time-consuming one to use and to hack? Without a doubt. Does its users suffer from the worst kind of dependency entanglements? Yes, they do. One man called it a 'lifetime of dependency conflicts', and that man is not far wrong. Tightly binding things like Torvalds is fond of doing is long recongnized as the worst thing you can do in software development. Andy Tannenbaum told Linus Torvalds years ago that Torvalds' ideas on operating systems are outdated. Torvalds persisted nevertheless. A lot of Microsoft-hating Communism-loving Eurohackers joined hands with him to develop Linux into a semi-usable program. Andy Tannenbaum is a sensible man (despite his dissing of Dijkstra's banker's algorithm, I should add). For several years, he never bothered about developing a usable operating s

Message ID: 392780 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO innovates, Loons despair Sensing that its lawsuit against IBM is not going to result in a quick pay day, SCO started innovating with the Vote and Shout technology. Loons, on the other hand, are still stuck with the outdated Linux technology. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392760 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Windows life is good I try and avoid storing large amounts of paper, by scanning all the stuff that I think I might need in future. A lot of that is sensitive information, and I used to encrypt it through loopback encryption when I was a Linux user. When I switched from Mandrake to Suse, the encrypted file became unmountable. Apparently, Suse doesn't support AES256 encryption for loopback devices, unless you fiddle with the kernel through outside patches. As anybody that used Linux for any length of time would tell you, applying outside patches to kernel is a really bad idea. You can no longer apply official Suse patches (including security patches, which are quite frequently issued, I might add) after that.  Is this brain-dead or what? You have this supposedly open system you are using to avoid the Microsoft "lock-in", and you are now a victim of your "distro" maker's lock-in. Linux life is like that. Each

Message ID: 392728 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux PC is a joke I wanted to see if somebody could locate a Linux PC for sale by searching on google. Sure enough, there was an ad by Dell - "Linux Computer". Clicking the link takes you to a page with two PCs advertised, and neither of them runs Linux!! "Genuine Windows XP", it is. Dell is just messing with the Linux Loons! There is an ad by IBEXPC on the next google search results page. You go to the site, and click on 'Linux systems', and you find that for $329, you get an IBEX 4210 - AMD Sempron 2600+, 256MB memory, 80 GB hard disk, 52X CD-rom, a floppy drive, built-in video and ethernet, no monitor, and no OS! You can get Fedora or Ubuntu pre-loaded for an additional $39 (total $368). You go to circuit city, and find that for $349, you get an Acer PC with Sempron 3200+, 512MB memory, 160GB Sata hard disk, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, no floppy drive, built-in video and ethernet, no monitor, a 9-in-1 card reader an

Message ID: 392708 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loons try in vain to hide my messages Loons have tried in vain to hide my Walmart message, because it conclusively shows Linux desktop is heading for the gutter. But I have used my superior intelligence to keep it visible. Notice that none of the fu**ers tried even to address the tumbling fortunes of Linux desktop. Just shut your eys tight. That is the Loon mantra. Linux desktop wouldn't exist without a substantial amount of Loon denial. Any other group would have realized long ago that it will *never* succeed. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392676 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Far fewer Linux desktops at walmart.com A few months ago, one used to see several different Linux desktops at walmart.com. There used to be a menu on the left side of the screen that let you choose between Windows Computers, Linspire machines, Xandros PCs, Sun Java Desktops, and machines with no OS. That's all changed now. The # of Linux models is more than halved now compared to a year ago. I counted a total of 4 Linux models - 2 Linspire, 2 Xandros. According to archive.org, in March 2005, there were 10 Linux models. Linux is not conquering customers' minds and hearts, even when it is preloaded on a PC. What a surprise! Loon lies have no effect on the marketplace. How shocking! When can we expect the Loons to give up and switch to Windows enmasse? For every Loon including the Finn, there is a Windows machine with his name on it. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the foll

Message ID: 392478 Posted By: deepdistrust Posted On: 2006-07-21 00:15:00 Subject: The gang is back here The whole thing seems to be a conspiracy to send me to investorvillage, and then get back here to continue the lie campaign. Not so fast. Now, investorvillage is suddenly the bad guys? Why is Ransom investigating them? Because PJ said they are bad guys? This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388949 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: City of Munich: We Lie A Lot Some people already figured out this Linux migration business is going NOWHERE! But, we just lie and say there is no problem for now. We will reveal the truth in bits and pieces in the coming months. Suckers! This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392294 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Is settlement imminent? The question is how long can IBM hold on? IBM will look bad if the emails to Linux developers become public. Better settle before then. What is a billion or two to IBM? Make this go away. Save face. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392190 Posted By: freecode_99 Subject: Trolls are long gone That's one good thing about the board change - the trolls are gone. The bad thing, so are those who brought this board to over 360,000+ posts (for the most part). I am not leaving, though I do keep my nym here and elsewhere. There is only one of me - and I have been posting here for a long time. The facts have not and will not change. The only thing now, is when do the bills come due for the SCOX and their scheming buds? It's not over until they are finished in court, and I am not worried, I'm just waiting for Justice to arrive and be applied. Have a nice day all. Don't worry, be happy. freecode This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392027 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Thanks Loons Thanks Loons, for keeping my latest post above the 2-star threshold. I see you are weakening in your resolve. It will be no time before you start agreeing with me (enthusiastically, I might add) that IBM has no chance of prevailing and it should be referred to as what is known in these circles as 'toast'. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 392012 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Rumour: IBM settling with SCO It's not a good idea to believe rumours, but it looks like the Loons can start taking it easy now. IBM is ready to fold, if I have the accurate information. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391899 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO OWNS UNIX, SCO OWNS IBM SCO owns Unix. Caldera owned Unix, according to its cofounder, Ransom Love. That makes SCO the owner of Unix now. SCO is all set to crush IBM in the lawsuit. If see this message briefly, and then it goes out of view, it's because the Linux supporters are deliberately giving it a low rating to make it invisible in the default view. Ask yourself why they are doing this. The Linux supporters are scrambling to eliminate obstacles to their false propaganda. They are trying to hide IBM's guilt. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391841 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO to make billions SCO will nail IBM and win billions. The Linux Loons will not have an operating system they call their own. Novell execs, IBM execs along with several Y! SCOX regulars will end up in jail. IBM will never again try to fight Microsoft. Microsoft will extend its monopoly to other areas. Yarro, McBride and others will face no prosecution. Or, so I have heard.  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391432 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loon Panic The news of SCO's appeal seems to have sent the Loons into a state of panic. They were seen reciting to each other all the reasons why SCO *should* lose in court. Actually, mutual Loon reassurance seems to be the primary function of this forum. You get scared, you let a fellow Loon reassure you that SCO has no chance. After you hear somebody tell you why McBride is going to jail, you are no longer afraid that SCO will win this lawsuit. Unfortunately for the Loons, reality is unaffected by their wishful thinking. I come here daily to point this out, despite strong objections from the Loons. The new message board format is going to make this more difficult for me. Several Thuggish Loons seem to be acting in concert to rate my messages low, so they will disappear from *everyone's* default view.  I will be sure to come back here to rub it in after SCO wins this case. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed

Message ID: 391346 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Hate the new message board Hate the new message board. My posts are invisible, by default! Cannot help but feel that Loons are somehow behind this new message board format.  No matter. Loon lies will not go undetected for long! This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391240 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Of liars and freeloaders Throwing personal insults at me may make you temporarily feel better, but it won't change the fact that your freeloading days are soon going to be over. If you want your pathetic Lamex fix, you are going to have to pay the SCO tax. It's only a matter of time, now.  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391201 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: IBM and Loons made for each other Loons are conducting DDOS's against their "enemies" and IBM employees seem to be trying to hack into other companies' networks. IBM and Loons - a match made in heaven. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391199 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO means business This latest news about appeal ought to tell IBM and the Loons that SCO means business. It surprised even me, a staunch SCO supporter. I was under the impression things were tacked on to the lawsuit, and SCO will not mind too much to see them dismissed. But, not so. SCO is digging its heels in. Understandbly enough, Loons are very worried (which indicates IBM is very worried). They wanted to shut out who they call trolls to concentrate exclusively on their lie campaign today. I expect the settlement talks to commence very soon, now.  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391142 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loons deserve no explanation Loons have been trying to extract some details of the SCO case and SCO's strategy from Biff, no doubt with the intention of passing the juicy tid bits to IBM lawyers. Biff is rightly keeping things from the Loons. Loons deserve no explanation. Nobody is running any show for the Loons' benefit. SCO will keep things sealed from here on out, and all the Loons can do is to grind their teeth in frustration. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391040 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Innocence until Loons' guilt is proven Which is why the Linux Loons aren't under arrest yet. The legal question is what keeps them out of jail. It's only a matter of time. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391024 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Design of the Unix Operating System There is a book with the title "Design of the Unix Operating System" by Bach - a pretty good book by the way - that should make the Loons look silly for saying Unix is not an operating system. Where is the 'Design of the Linux Operating System' book? Oh, that's right. Linux is not designed. It is "grown". What is it, a plant? How many papers did Mr. Torvalds author through lo these many years of working on Linux? None. Zero. That's right. His motto seems to be 'Just Code Something'. No wonder Linux is a joke. I recommend to all the Loons that can't stand a Microsoft operating system to start supporting Minix 3. Seems to be a sensible guy that is running the project. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 391012 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: UNIX *is* an operating system Loon lies know no bounds. Now, Unix is not even an operating system. I guess the Loons don't think anything other than Linux is an operating system. It's pathetic, so many people telling so many lies, just to hold onto some code that may or may not benefit the good-for-nothing Lamex system. Unix is an operating system with plenty of IP in it, and SCO owns the said Unix. IBM is accused of stealing from that Unix, and putting that code in a particularly lame open source operating system. SCO will nail IBM and collect damages. SCO may also nail some Loons. Is all this clear to the slow Loons?  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390935 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO owns UNIX code, not trademark Trademark has nothing to do with code. Linux Loons try to deceive, as usual. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390925 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Primitive Linux Optical mice not recognized on boot with live CD Kubuntu or Ubuntu. What year is this again?? "I have heard a lot about Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I am not too thrilled with them right now. My mouce port gets shutoff when I try the live cd. To use mouse again I have to remove it from back of computer and plug back in. Regular mice work fine. Something as simple as an optical mouse should work on boot and first install." This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390965 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Plenty of IP in Unix Linux Loons want to spread lies in the hope that IBM's transgressions will go unpunished, and Loons get to keep the donated code. SCO will nail IBM first, and Loons next. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390928 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: IBM is in trouble The lawsuit hasn't gone away as expected. It is still there after 3 years. The IBM agents are getting less and less effective at spreading lies on the internet. Expect IBM to fold, and settle with SCO. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390918 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO owns UNIX I have posted a link to Ransom Love's quote saying Caldera owned the Unix code. The Linux Loons have started the vicious spin cycle explaining how this doesn't matter, but they are dead wrong. Just because no single entity owns all the copyrights on Unix, it doesn't mean that if you lay your hands on that code, you can start using that with impunity, without the consent of anybody, and without paying anybody. When USL was licensing Unix to others, USL didn't own all the copyrights either. They still had the right to change any of the code, and to license use of that code to its clients. If somebody uses that code without permission, USL was still the entity that would sue that somebody. Ownership here seems to refer to the much maligned 'control rights' that McBride was talking about. Caldera owned Unix. It is absurd to suggest (as the Loons are suggesting) that a cofounder of Caldera didn't k

Message ID: 390856 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: The Linux XP A good critique of Extreme Programming (XP) can be found in the "Extreme Programming Refactored" book. XP is supposed to be this new-fangled method of software development, where requirements are collected piece-meal, and programs are 'grown' as needs change rather than being designed. It is the choice method of the Lazy Coder. As can be expected when there is little design, the programs produced by XP tend to be rather shabby and unwieldy. XP is surving mostly by hype, just like Linux is. The Linux kernel coders have embraced XP as their development method. Linux is not designed, but is 'grown'. This is why the API's keep changing even across point releases. This, in turn, makes writing and maintaining device drivers for Linux a pain. This is why the device makers are not exactly rushing to develop drivers for Linux. That, in turn, explains why a lot of the hardware doesn't work with Lin

Message ID: 390883 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux Loons will be locked up IBM supporters are the ones spreading lies on the internet. IBM screwed SCO, and is now trying to cover up through propaganda. There will be hell to pay for the Linux Loons. Especially if you live in the USA. Consider this as fair warning. Or not. It's your funeral. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390772 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO WILL WIN APPEAL SCO *has* to win. They are in the right, here. Besides, how likely is it that both judges are in IBM's pocket or under Loon threats? As the SLT article says, much of the code produced in evidence is under seal. Explains why the Loons are trying to rile Biff up. They are hoping to extract file names and line numbers out of Biff, so they can erase the incriminating evidence. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390496 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Ignore the allparadox joker Why does he say he is a retired attorney in his signature, if he doesn't want his opinion to be taken as a legal opinion?  He seems to be saying "pay more attention to me, I used to be an attorney". Then, he gets a little scared and wants to play it safe. "You are on your own if you want a legal opinion, because this ain't one!" He is just a conflicted little Loon. Ignore him. Something tells me he was a failure as an attorney! This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390526 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Will IBM pay through its nose? Will IBM be forced to pay SCO a *lot* of money to make this case go away? Will the fear of going to jail jolt the IBM execs into a settlement? Will Pamela Jones be exposed as the little IBM agent that she is? Will the Loons look very, very silly for trusting her? Yes. Oh, yes. Hell, yes. Yes is the correct answer. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390516 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Will Novell and IBM execs go to jail? It looks like Novell and IBM are colluding to deny SCO its rights. Will SCO get to the bottom of this conspiracy in discovery? Will the execs of Novell and IBM end up in jail? Will some of the Loons accompany them? (walterbyrd, freecode and the Swede are my nominees; panglozz is in instigator, but he always uses enough weasel words to escape liability; Colonel Loon seems like a retard that doesn't know what he is doing.) This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390463 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCO owns Unix I have posted a link to Ransom Love's quote saying Caldera owned the Unix code. The Linux Loons have started the vicious spin cycle explaining how this doesn't matter, but they are dead wrong. Just because no single entity owns all the copyrights on Unix, it doesn't mean that if you lay your hands on that code, you can start using that with impunity, without the consent of anybody, and without paying anybody. When USL was licensing Unix to others, USL didn't own all the copyrights either. They still had the right to change any of the code, and to license use of that code to its clients. If somebody uses that code without permission, USL was still the entity that would sue that somebody. Ownership here seems to refer to the much maligned 'control rights' that McBride was talking about. Caldera owned Unix. It is absurd to suggest (as the Loons are suggesting) that a cofounder of Caldera didn't k

Message ID: 390237 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Since when did SCO start OWNing UNIX? Any of the Loons have any information on when the newSCO first started calling itself the owner of Unix operating system? http://ir.sco.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=42307 >>> "The goal of Caldera International is to make Linux on industry standard hardware the alternative business platform," said Ransom Love, CEO of Caldera International. "With the completion of this acquisition, Caldera will be the only company to offer a standard unified platform that allows Linux applications to scale to the enterprise utilizing the power, maturity and stability of UNIX. It's a first..." <<< How can "Linux applications scale to the enterprise utilizing the power, maturity and stability of UNIX" ? Is Ransom Love talking about putting Unix code into Linux? Can Caldera do that, if it didn't "own" the Unix code? Note: any information provided by t

Message ID: 390231 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma backing SCO SCO has the support of the Gods. (Sandeep's raise is tied to this.) IBM has the support of the Loons. SCO = Owner IBM = Thief Loon = Accomplice Unix = Great Original Linux = Bad Copy Windows = Great Desktop OS Linux = A Study in How Not To Write an OS Microsoft = IP Saviour Linux Loon = IP Destroyer More equations are available for a price. Email me for a quote. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390149 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: How much will IBM pay to settle? I say, two billion dollars. What does the board think? Do I hear 3 billion? This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 390047 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Vista will exterminate Linux It is clear the Linux Loons have their eyes on desktop dominance. That is never going to happen. The sooner they realize this, the sooner they will stop trolling on this message board. Why defend the worthless Linux system from SCO if Linux will never amount to anything? Vista is going to put an end to Linux desktop hopes once and for all. If you are wondering why, it is because of lack of (and opposition to) DRM facilities on Linux. Even today, people have to go through a lot of trouble to play DVD's on their Linux PC's. In the future, almost all entertainment will be protected by DRM. Linux will be shut out. Despite idc[0-9]*'s claims, movie making is still a very profitable business. They are still making a lot of movies, and people are still watching a lot of them. Criticisms about quality are very old. They will always be there, but people will always watch movies. In the future, people wi

Message ID: 389842 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: The Microsoft problem can be fixed The Microsoft problem can be fixed as the latest fines from EU demonstrate. Microsoft can be forced to behave. But, there is no fix for the Free Software problem. Free Software is unethical. It hurts proprietary software companies through predatory pricing and unfair competition. Microsoft was never an adequate excuse to continue the unethical act of Free Software, but it is even less so now. Reject Free Software. Tell Richard Stallman to get a job! P.S. Ralph Yarro is innocent of wrongdoing, despite what the Loons say. I can't point this out often enough. P.P.S. SCO is a victim of IBM. Support SCO. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 389743 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Vista will be released when ready http://www.betanews.com/article/Gates_Id_Be_Glad_to_Delay_Vista/1152635235 Microsoft wants to get everything right. Microsoft spent billions developing it, and billions are spent building products for Vista. "If the feedback from the beta tests shows it is not ready for prime time, I'd be glad to delay it", says Mr. Bill Gates (bless the man!). Microsoft is doing the right thing. Loons should forget about their SCO obsession for a minute and applaud Microsoft. Release of Vista will be an historic event. That's when Linux desktop will be obliterated, and lots of Loons will be liberated (much like the Iraqi liberation by the Iraq war). I'm looking forward to see my fellow computer users freed from the clutches of Linux desktop, and I am sure my good friend Bill Gates is too. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following licen

Message ID: 389358 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux supporters aiding and abetting SCO does not claim the open source community disclosed Unix methods and concepts. SCO claims IBM did so. This is purely a fight between SCO and IBM. So, why are Linux supporters 'fighting' this 'fight'?  And, it went way beyond defence now. The Linux supporters are on the offensive. There are daily claims of "crimes" of all kind by SCO. The Swede was talking about 'doctored evidence'. He fell silent, and altogether stopped posting after I questioned him on this. Why didn't the court say even a *single* thing about this so called doctored evidence?  There are cries of SEC violations almost from the very beginning. Everytime somebody noticed an insider's stock position decreasing, accusations invariably followed. Not only are the Linux fans saying those things on this board, they are busy writing to the SEC. And yet, the SEC, amazingly enough, said *NOTHING*

Message ID: 389167 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Munich Linux Migration Utter Failure Loons will keep lying as long as possible, and the Munich bozos will continue the cover-up, but mark my words on this 10th day of July, 2006: Munich Linux migration has failed badly. The only unknown is when the world will learn about it. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 389092 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Microsoft Monopoly Good For You Microsoft being a monopoly on the desktop actually benefts the consumer. When people make things, they need to make them only for Windows. There is a 'standard' environment for everyone to develop for and use. Things tend to work with each other well. (Anybody that tried to use Linux on the desktop knows how valuable this is, because Linux doesn't have it.) OS reasonably cheap despite the monopoly status. Office is costly, but people are writing whole books with Windows Word, and Excel is put to many advanced uses in corporations, and there are not many presentations without PowerPoint. Price follows function. For individual use, try cheaper programs like WordPerfect or Open Office. (Never pirate Microsoft Office or any other Microsoft software. Thank you.) So, if Microsoft screwed a competitor or two to attain that monopoly status, just remember that they are doing it all for you, the man o

Message ID: 388992 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: IBM steals SCOX's IP This is what SCO is claiming in its case. I'm inclined to believe there is some truth to this for one reason and one reason only. As the case went to trial, an unknown paralegal opened up a web site that soon became a place to spread FUD about SCO. This person, Pamela Jones, used to be a Jehovah's Witness. Then, she worked in her son's company. Then, she wrote some recipes and put up a web site to host them, and an LLC company as the web site's owner. Then, she started writing about open source. This is some natural progress, huh? JW to working for your son's medical appliances company(?) to writing recipes to writing about open source software. There is something fishy here. She is likely an IBM agent. Why does IBM need agents if it is innocent of any wrong-doing? This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution

Message ID: 388968 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux Loons close their eyes and ears They are comparing notes on who has me on ignore. They have to close their eyes and ears and pretend not to know about the Munich troubles. One loser even suggested "PR stunt" as an explanation. These are all just defence mechanisms to protect themselves and to prevent their carefully constructed version of reality from being shattered. Linux is a piece of s**t. You can take this to bank. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388963 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: OMG! IBM is screwed IBM tried hard, but couldn't get everything dismissed. SCO's outstanding claims are sure to land IBM in hot water. It can make it all go away by paying 5 billion dollars (only) to SCOX, and by apologizing to Darl McBride for all the trouble they gave him.  This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388947 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: State of Illinois: Linux is too risky State of Illinois thought Linux is too risky, and went with Windows, and saved $10 million to boot. For more facts of this kind, visit www.getthefacts.com. For more lies from the Linux Loons, stick around here. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388939 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux may violate 270+ patents Linux may violate more than 270 patents, according to Open Source Risk Management Inc. USPTO grants far too many patents than it should, but even if Linux violates only a dozen patents, the risk to the users is still unmanageable and unacceptable. Switch to Windows. Windows doesn't violate any patents whatsoever. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388933 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SCOX WILL CRUSH IBM IN COURTS The Loons managed to post enough lies to push this out of view, but SCO still has plenty of undismissed claims. SCO will crush IBM in courts - IBM will have to pay five billion dollars if it wants to continue selling AIX. IBM is toast. Loons are too. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388930 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loons already lying about Munich http://www.osdir.com/Article8934.phtml This is supposed to be a rebuttal to Mr. Bill Hilf who said Linux is losing steam as server. "Let’s see, you mean it is losing steam because Massachusetts has banned Microsoft Office? ... Because Munich, Germany migrated over 12,000 desktops to Linux? ..." Notice the lie? Munich, Germany HAS NOT migrated anything to Linux yet. They appear to be in some trouble, considering this little tid bit of information: < Berlin's IT State Secretary Ulrich Freise explained in the Senate building that a manager in Munich had told him that migration to Linux had "failed in reality" there. > This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388868 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: What's up with Munich Linux Migration? http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/74868 < The City of Munich's LiMux project center is rejecting charges by the Senate administration of Berlin that the migration to free software has gotten stuck before it ever got going. As Project director Peter Hofmann told heise online, "Open Source software at the workplace is a reality in Munich." > What the heck is he talking about? It's supposed to be migration to Linux desktop, not just 'open source software at the workplace'!  < Hofmann added that "most users" in the city's administration use individual Open Source programs to surf the net, write e-mails, or edit graphics, for example, "on the Microsoft Windows operating system, which remains dominant." > Windows operating system still remains dominant? WTF are you guys doing then? It's already July 2006, bozo! People are n

Message ID: 388785 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Munich Linux Migration in trouble? http://www.webwereld.nl/articles/41861/munich-linux-a-reality.html Don't let the heading mislead you. "However, two weeks ago a senior government IT official told the Senate that the migration had ground to a halt, citing an inside source." No smoke without a fire. Linux migration is completely fucked up. The Linux inside men, who orchestrated the whole idea of migration, will naturally lie like hell to cover up delays and failures. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388708 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Windows is good, Linux is risky http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/11484_Rayovac_Case_Stud y.doc Loons can download the word doc, use the slow and bloated (not to mention buggy) OpenOffice software to read it, and start weeping uncontrollably. Let it all out. It's good for you. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388658 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: SUSE Linux sucks uncontrollably http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/facts/analyses/eal4compare.mspx This is required reading for the Loons. Then, there will be required weeping for the Loons. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388585 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Linux Loon Pictured http://blogs.herald.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/acrying.jpg This is how a Linux Loon looks after reading yet another survey that shows Linux is going nowhere, or yet another report that shows Windows costs less than Linux in the long run. P.S: I have seen some message headings that read "apologies to deepdistrust". I haven't read any of the messages, but the apologies are accepted. I'm not the kind of guy who holds a grudge. I'm unlike Linux Loons in that aspect. There were also some headings that read "no apologies to deepdistrust". I urge these posters to reconsider their position. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 388388 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: IBM *could* settle with SCO Loons claiming IBM will never settle need to be ignored. These are some of the same people who  1) have been claiming for the last 7 years that Linux desktop is as easy to use as Windows (Linux desktop continues to be a piece of s**t to this day). 2) have been claiming for the last 3 years that SCO will be laughed out of courts (SCO stayed in courts, 3 years and counting, and it still has more than a hundred instances of alleged violations by IBM undismissed). 3) have been claiming for a long, long time that open source programs are inherently more secure (There is an unending stream of security vulnerabilities discovered in open source programs daily). 4) have been claiming for long that open source programs tend to have better quality (With very few notable exceptions, open source programs quality is just too terrible for words). 5) have been claiming that Free Software doesn't hurt commercial softwar

Message ID: 387788 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Groklaw and Linux - both based on Lies (It pays to post this message often. It's getting a little too righteous around here, these days. Bringing Loons down to earth is always a Good Thing.) Groklaw and Lamex, both claim to be founded on lofty principles, but once you pierce the facade, you will see lies, deception and ugliness. Groklaw's moderators claim to be running a community web site, but delete and hide messages, "cleanse" threads, freeze user IDs, and remove attributions - all based on some undisclosed criteria. Pamela Jones does publish a set of rules for participants, but the rules the moderators actually enforce are not the published ones. Groklaw moderators have been known to lock IDs of users who are merely suspected to be associated with the SCO group. In public, however, Pamela Jones claims SCO folks can participate on groklaw. Lamex is supposed to be about liberating software, but it seems to be more

Message ID: 387501 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loons and tricksters Linux supporters are the biggest liars on the planet. Remember, these are the same folks that have been lying to the world since 1999 that Linux desktop is as easy to use as Windows. 1999! They are used to telling big lies effortlessly. Ask yourself this: do you want to be left out of a possibly huge settlement with IBM based on the words of people who are known to lie their asses off if it suits them? This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 386597 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loons: Shut up about MS Word now http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/03/openoffice_security_bug_fix/ "OpenOffice.org has released a security update to its alternative office productivity suite following the discovery of three potentially serious security vulnerabilities during an internal audit." "The first of the three flaws means that Java applets can break out of a secure 'sandbox' in which they are designed to execute. Next up there's a security bug in the processing of macros which means macros might be invoked even when a user has disabled the function. Finally, flaws in the parsing of XML file formats mean that maliciously constructed files could be used to trigger a buffer overflow thereby potentially allowing a hacker to inject hostile code onto vulnerable systems. Users are able to disable Java applets as a workaround against the first flaw, but the other security bugs require patching." Now,

Message ID: 386400 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: What Loons Want, They Don't Get They have been dreaming that Linux desktop will replace Windows, and Microsoft will be crushed. That hasn't happened in a long, long time. Let alone replacing Windows, Linux desktop is not even usable. Based purely on Loon track record, SCO ought to be counted on to win big in its lawsuits. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.

Message ID: 386368 Posted By: deepdistrust Subject: Loon Lies Exposed Loons were claiming judge retained only 11 of the 'claims' (for lack of a better word). Motley Fool says 112 still remain. There are still 112 ways left for Linux to lose, and lose big. Loons lie too much to be taken seriously. This Yahoo! SCOX Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution under the following license: CCL Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0.